Hi -- On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Gene Tani wrote: > the other way to subvert private (or protected) declarations is to > subclass the class with the private methods, and declare the > superclass' private method public in the subclass. I don't think that has any effect. You could, however, reopen the class itself and (re)declare the methods public. David -- David A. Black dblack / wobblini.net