------ art_3520_29337172.1128294504192 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 10/2/05, Greg Brown <greg7224 / gmail.com> wrote: > > > Kevin Brown wrote: > > > This is why I'm responding. It's the problem I have with the FSF and the > > like. It's 100% _POSSIBLE_. It's easy to do. Dual licensing even fits in > > the GPL. Whether that fits into the piles of ethics of above groups is > the > > only question, but there was never a problem with the possibility of > doing > > so. So it annoys me to no end when these groups refer to the possibility > of > > a concept when they really mean "should we say this an ok usage of free > > software?" Which is ironic as it implies that _free_ software should > have > > controls to FORCE it to STAY FREE OR ELSE YOU EVIL CAPITALIST PIG, which > is > > in many ways as unfree as the very software I'm writing. > > Permitting software to be commercial is part of the definition of free > software. Non-commercial licenses are NOT considered free software by > the FSF. In fact, to be GPL compatible, a license must explicitly > allow for commercial sale. > > > > Once they've bought > > my product, they have the source, and can modify/extend/learn to their > > heart's content. If they sell something off of it, or re-distribute, we > > believe we deserve a cut. > > How far down the chain do you think this works? Do you think that an > author should pay for every book written in word? The ethics of this > boil down to software licensing, which by definition makes a piece of > software non free. Whether or not this is good economics I will not flame on about. > > As a side note, the idea behind commercial free software is that your > money should come from a service you provide that requires your time or > resources, such as improvements to code, convenient packaging, > documentation, etc, and not to the imaginary costs of replication, > which simply do not exist. Of course, you're free to charge whatever > people are willing to pay for your software, but there is no reason > that you should have a cut of their creations, whether or not they've > been inspired by you, because it is there extra effort that yields the > money. It's the combination of the original work and modifications that make up the total value proposition. A derivitive work may indeed add value, but part of the overall value is in the original software. > > > <insult> > > Then again, it seems like you're more interested in money than people > anyway, in which case, perhaps you might charge every time someone > types a keystroke into your program, considering that it IS interfacing > with your program, after all. > > </insult> That's not really fair. Even if you believe that software patents are bad for people, as an intelligent person you have to realize that many do not agree. Personally I think that the goals of the FSF if realized would harm a lot more people then it would help, and I don't think you care less about people because you see it differently. I might think you are wrong and debate your logic and understanding of economics, but I wouldn't call you a bad person just because you see it differently. Chris ------ art_3520_29337172.1128294504192--