On Oct 2, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Eivind Eklund wrote:

> On 10/2/05, Joshua Haberman <joshua / reverberate.org> wrote:
>
>> On Oct 2, 2005, at 9:10 AM, Eivind Eklund wrote:
>>> They're trying to repackage software that the author assume to be
>>> Gem-distributed as Debian packages (.deb, IIRC).  The reason for  
>>> this
>>> is simple: To provide Ruby software on Debian for Debian users in  
>>> the
>>> way Debian users are used to.  These users do not particularly care
>>> about Ruby, and definately do not want to have to know one packaging
>>> system for handling Ruby software, and another for handling Perl,  
>>> and
>>> another for handling Java, and another for handling Haskell, and
>>> another for handling Python, and another way for handling C code,  
>>> and
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Instead, they want they software to Just Work Like All Other  
>>> Software,
>>> the way they are used to, and to not have to care about the language
>>> the software is written in at all.
>>>
>>
>> May I request that we talk about technical issues like grown-up
>> engineers, not like guests on "Jerry Springer?"
>>
>
> These are user interface issues, and I am trying to explain them in a
> way that get the overall top level user issues communicated.

I apologize -- I misread your tone.  It sounded like you were trying  
to make Debian users sound unreasonable, and their wishes unimportant.

I just read the "gems and repackaging" thread on ruby-core@, and I  
agree with your position 100%.

Josh