> me either, that was sort of my point hindsight being 20/20, seemed like the > thing to do at the time. althought i'd be interested in hearing more about > what transfire is talking about perhaps there is more to it than i'm seeing Well, it just a differnt way to think about coding --prototypes vs calsses. Your OpenClass provides a means very similar to what I was doing in exploring this. That's all really. Coding in Ruby generally though, I think OpenStruct would prove more useful. T.