On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Devin Mullins wrote:

> While we seem to be rife with OT threads, I thought I'd throw in an OT
> question that's been percolating in my mind for quite a while.
>
> Where do you recommend to live? Feel free to provide just a city name, or to
> go into detail. When I say "for a programmer," I'm mainly referring to the
> existence of programming jobs, but other aspects, such as the existence of
> ?UGs, proximity to nerdy attractions, etc. could play a part. Also feel free
> to just tell me some places to look for ideas, and then tell me to Get to
> Googlin'. :)
>
> Obviously, the usual places show up: Silicon Valley, Wash DC (where I am
> now), *insert big city here* -- any info you have about why you would or
> wouldn't recommend one of these would be appreciated. I'm also looking for
> places that are off-the-beaten path (but still accessible, so Fraser, B.C.
> is out of the question, sorry) -- Portland, OR and even Bend, OR seem to be
> attracting techies, for example. Why? Should I be interested, too? Why or
> why not? I have preference towards places in the US, but if you have
> hometown pride, you are of course welcome to give it shoutout. :)
>
> For the short term, I'm stuck here earning a living, and for the medium
> term, I'm probably going to go where my long-time friends are, in Calif.
> (SF? SB?  LA? SD? not sure), but I'm trying to plan ahead a little more than
> I have in the past, so am hoping to build an arsenal of info. You guys are
> the best group I could think to ask.
>
> I'll provide a little about DC, in fairness to y'all, and maybe as a
> template.  1. The housing market here is ridiculously expensive. I think it
> might be going down a *little* soon, but yikes, it's high.  2. It's probably
> because high tech jobs are in high supply here. Gov't contracting is the
> name of the game, and while you probably won't be using Agile methodologies
> to build the Next Big Thing, you'll at least have a fairly well-paying and
> steady job.  3. Weather's not fantastic. Temperate climates. Warm for its
> latitude because of some sort of wind thing. Generally pretty cloudy during
> the Spring/Fall, though, due to its proximity to the water.  4. Traffic
> sucks. Combine that with the fact that you can only afford to live in the
> boonies and you've got a recipe for un-fun.  5. Entertainment is pretty
> decent, if you don't mind the traffic it takes to get there. We've got the
> Kennedy Center in DC, Nissan Pavillion out west in Warrenton, VA, all sorts
> of jazz, bars, etc. and DC is obviously a pretty popular place for artists
> to include as part of a national/regional tour.  We've got fantastic museums
> and art galleries, many of which are free.  6. There's a very good variety
> of decent restaurants, and some very good ones. Of course, for any genre X
> of food, there's apparently some city Y that produces better X. Oh well. :)
> 7. It's a big, suburban region. You're not going to see any "sense of
> belonging" to the DC area, in people. You're not going to find that 'cept
> for probably way in the city (where it's urban), or way out (where it's
> rural, in which case you'll find the annual Nokesville festival, or
> whatever).  8. I may be full of it.
>
> I shut up now.

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yeah - it's dark now - but check back tomorrow.  ;-)

-a
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