My vote is for the Kinglet. Cute or not, it's a darn good logo. Ruby-chan doesn't do that much for me, and a rock for a mascot seems kind of impersonal. -david ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000 / hypermetrics.com> To: "ruby-talk ML" <ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 8:45 PM Subject: [ruby-talk:15573] Re: I like ruby-chan ... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Glen Starchman <glen / enabledventures.com> > To: ruby-talk ML <ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 8:28 PM > Subject: [ruby-talk:15571] Re: I like ruby-chan ... > > > > On Tue, 22 May 2001, Rob Armstrong wrote: > > > Ruby is more human(e) than Python. We already have too many animals > :-). > > > > > > Suggestion: > > > Her holding the Ruby (stone) in her hand is a little obvious. How 'bout > > > a belt buckle? Ruby Slippers may be too subtle for an icon (besides I > > > don't know how many Japanese know about Oz). > > > > Rubi-chan (notice the Japanese spelling) is cute! A perfect mascot if > > there ever was one. How about just Ruby-chan holding a, well, ruby in > > her hand? > > Hi Rob, Glen, > > I also think the Rubi-chan logo is cute. > > That's why I don't like it. :) And the ruby-crowned kinglet is, well, > even cuter, if you get my meaning. Just my opinion. Nothing > personal against those who may [like|have designed] them. > > But one more comment about Rub[iy]-chan. Don't forget these > comments from a female Rubyist a few weeks back: > > > In this thread, I've seen a few people mention that they'd like some sort > of > > sexy woman for the mascot. I'd just like to point out that if a sexy woman > > becomes Ruby's mascot, you risk alienating some people. > > > > One of the greatest asset a technology can have is its community, and > that's > > often why I check out news groups, mailing lists, etc. when investigating > > something new. If a logo or mascot gives people the impression that Ruby > is > > a boys' club, this can be a real turn off. By boys' club I don't mean a > > community that's mostly male (I assume the Ruby community is like this > now), > > but a group that would make it difficult for women to feel accepted. > > Now, I don't like the specter of Political Correctness that is haunting the > USA... > in my lexicon, PC means Personal Computer. :) And let's not get onto that > kind of topic here. > > But having said that: Her point is well taken. > > I don't want to be PC for the sake of being PC. But I do wish to encourage > the > participation of women in a male-dominated profession. And I do wish to > promote an inclusive atmosphere, I wish to be cosmopolitan in my dealings > with people, and above all these, I wish to practice common courtesy. > > Just my three cents' worth. > > Hal > > > > > >