My vote is for the Kinglet.  Cute or not, it's a darn good logo.  Ruby-chan
doesn't do that much for me, and a rock for a mascot seems kind of
impersonal.
-david

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000 / hypermetrics.com>
To: "ruby-talk ML" <ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 8:45 PM
Subject: [ruby-talk:15573] Re: I like ruby-chan ...


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Glen Starchman <glen / enabledventures.com>
> To: ruby-talk ML <ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 8:28 PM
> Subject: [ruby-talk:15571] Re: I like ruby-chan ...
>
>
> > On Tue, 22 May 2001, Rob Armstrong wrote:
> > > Ruby is more human(e) than Python.  We already have too many animals
> :-).
> > >
> > > Suggestion:
> > > Her holding the Ruby (stone) in her hand is a little obvious.  How
'bout
> > > a belt buckle?  Ruby Slippers may be too subtle for an icon (besides I
> > > don't know how many Japanese know about Oz).
> >
> > Rubi-chan (notice the Japanese spelling) is cute! A perfect mascot if
> > there ever was one.  How about just Ruby-chan holding a, well, ruby in
> > her hand?
>
> Hi Rob, Glen,
>
> I also think the Rubi-chan logo is cute.
>
> That's why I don't like it.  :)  And the ruby-crowned kinglet is, well,
> even cuter, if you get my meaning.  Just my opinion. Nothing
> personal against those who may [like|have designed] them.
>
> But one more comment about Rub[iy]-chan. Don't forget these
> comments from a female Rubyist a few weeks back:
>
> > In this thread, I've seen a few people mention that they'd like some
sort
> of
> > sexy woman for the mascot. I'd just like to point out that if a sexy
woman
> > becomes Ruby's mascot, you risk alienating some people.
> >
> > One of the greatest asset a technology can have is its community, and
> that's
> > often why I check out news groups, mailing lists, etc. when
investigating
> > something new.  If a logo or mascot gives people the impression that
Ruby
> is
> > a boys' club, this can be a real turn off. By boys' club I don't mean a
> > community that's mostly male (I assume the Ruby community is like this
> now),
> > but a group that would make it difficult for women to feel accepted.
>
> Now, I don't like the specter of Political Correctness that is haunting
the
> USA...
> in my lexicon, PC means Personal Computer.  :)  And let's not get onto
that
> kind of topic here.
>
> But having said that: Her point is well taken.
>
> I don't want to be PC for the sake of being PC. But I do wish to encourage
> the
> participation of women in a male-dominated profession. And I do wish to
> promote an inclusive atmosphere, I wish to be cosmopolitan in my dealings
> with people, and above all these, I wish to practice common courtesy.
>
> Just my three cents' worth.
>
> Hal
>
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