----- Original Message ----- From: Glen Starchman <glen / enabledventures.com> To: ruby-talk ML <ruby-talk / ruby-lang.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 8:28 PM Subject: [ruby-talk:15571] Re: I like ruby-chan ... > On Tue, 22 May 2001, Rob Armstrong wrote: > > Ruby is more human(e) than Python. We already have too many animals :-). > > > > Suggestion: > > Her holding the Ruby (stone) in her hand is a little obvious. How 'bout > > a belt buckle? Ruby Slippers may be too subtle for an icon (besides I > > don't know how many Japanese know about Oz). > > Rubi-chan (notice the Japanese spelling) is cute! A perfect mascot if > there ever was one. How about just Ruby-chan holding a, well, ruby in > her hand? Hi Rob, Glen, I also think the Rubi-chan logo is cute. That's why I don't like it. :) And the ruby-crowned kinglet is, well, even cuter, if you get my meaning. Just my opinion. Nothing personal against those who may [like|have designed] them. But one more comment about Rub[iy]-chan. Don't forget these comments from a female Rubyist a few weeks back: > In this thread, I've seen a few people mention that they'd like some sort of > sexy woman for the mascot. I'd just like to point out that if a sexy woman > becomes Ruby's mascot, you risk alienating some people. > > One of the greatest asset a technology can have is its community, and that's > often why I check out news groups, mailing lists, etc. when investigating > something new. If a logo or mascot gives people the impression that Ruby is > a boys' club, this can be a real turn off. By boys' club I don't mean a > community that's mostly male (I assume the Ruby community is like this now), > but a group that would make it difficult for women to feel accepted. Now, I don't like the specter of Political Correctness that is haunting the USA... in my lexicon, PC means Personal Computer. :) And let's not get onto that kind of topic here. But having said that: Her point is well taken. I don't want to be PC for the sake of being PC. But I do wish to encourage the participation of women in a male-dominated profession. And I do wish to promote an inclusive atmosphere, I wish to be cosmopolitan in my dealings with people, and above all these, I wish to practice common courtesy. Just my three cents' worth. Hal