On Sep 7, 2005, at 6:56 PM, graham wrote: > I agree. Although Ruby has potential, it still appears to be a > language for small systems/utilities. Partly because of the tools > support, partly because of performance, partly because it is > "new" (ish). I've been watching this list for over a year now and I don't remotely believe the above. I think you might want to look into some of the things Rubyists are doings. I expect to to be surprised. > Ruby seems to be at the stage of Java 0.9.. i.e. 1 set of command > line tools and loads of "learning applets" to play with. Again this, does not jive with what I see here every single day. Did you read Ara's post earlier tonight about the image analysis of hurricane Katrina being done with Ruby, by NOAA? > Its going to be a few years and something like "RBuilder" (c.f. > JBuilder) to get people using it to solve real problems... I believe it's my job to manage complexity, as the programmer, not the IDE's job. Tools are nice, but that has little to do with what I can and can't manage. James Edward Gray II