Hi! At Sat, 27 Aug 2005 02:18:42 +0900, Joe Van Dyk wrote: > So, I've been a long-term vim user. But I've heard about how emacs > is pretty good, and there's a vim-compatible mode in emacs Don't believe those false rumors. Yes, there is viper-mode but it is unusable to anyone relying on the advanced features of vi (leave alone vim). Yes, unfortunately I know precisely what I am talking about :-| Nevertheless you can make Emacs 100% compatible: Simply use 'M-x ansi-term' then 'vim ENTER'. That actually is running vim inside a terminal emulation inside Emacs. When people hear me say "Emacs is great. It only lacks a good editor." they first think that is meant to be a funny remark. It is not. Emacs is a great program I use for many tasks but when it comes to quite advanced editing tasks I usually save the file, do the complex editing in vim, then switch back to Emacs. Note that customizing Emacs can help a lot. My favorite setting is: (delete-selection-mode t) Its effect is that a selection is replaced by the text that is entered (or pasted). This is much handier than the original behavior. Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT -- Receiving this message does not necessarily imply that you are expected to understand it. If you do not understand it the best current practice (BCP) is ignoring it. If you only understand parts of it the BCP is ignoring the rest.