>Would it be fair to say that Django and Nitro are closer in philosophy >(ie. they both generate the SQL for you) than Django and Rails (or Rails >and Nitro)? I got the same feeling. But if you take the time to experiment with nitro, you will find that under the hood, thing work differently. And more features are coming shortly :-) regards, George. -- http://www.gmosx.com http://www.nitrohq.com