#: by Daryl Richter's words the mind was *winged* :#
> Kev Jackson wrote:
> 
>> 
> [big snip]
> 
>> Also (again very pesonally, could be miles off here), I think that there 
>> is a revolution around the corner, with dynamic languages coming more to 
>> the fore of mainstream programming.  I look back at what Java did (a lot 
>> that was good), javadoc (spawned a lot of other code documentation 
>> tools), vm design, no pointers, safe code, sandbox for applets, unit 
>> testing (ok Junit), broke programmers away from the IDE (yay Ant!).  I'm 
>> at the point where I'm looking at Java and thinking about it in the 
>> past, ie I don't see anything innovative coming from Java in the future 
>> Java5 did it for me, I didn't find anything compelling in it, just a "me 
>> too" shout at C#.
>> 
> 
> Man, this makes me feel old.
> 
> Giving Java credit for vm design, no pointers, safe code, unit testing 
> (SUnuit!), etc. is laughable.
> 
> Smalltalk (and others too...) provided all of this LONG before Java was 
> even a twinkling in the eye of Sun's marketing & sales departments.
> 
> [rest snipped]
> 
>> 
>> Kev
>> 
> 
> 
It is not giving credit for the creation but for mass usage. It is important too. I am not sure you 
can compare the spread of Smalltalk with Java spread.


my full 0.02 euroc
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