#: by Daryl Richter's words the mind was *winged* :# > Kev Jackson wrote: > >> > [big snip] > >> Also (again very pesonally, could be miles off here), I think that there >> is a revolution around the corner, with dynamic languages coming more to >> the fore of mainstream programming. I look back at what Java did (a lot >> that was good), javadoc (spawned a lot of other code documentation >> tools), vm design, no pointers, safe code, sandbox for applets, unit >> testing (ok Junit), broke programmers away from the IDE (yay Ant!). I'm >> at the point where I'm looking at Java and thinking about it in the >> past, ie I don't see anything innovative coming from Java in the future >> Java5 did it for me, I didn't find anything compelling in it, just a "me >> too" shout at C#. >> > > Man, this makes me feel old. > > Giving Java credit for vm design, no pointers, safe code, unit testing > (SUnuit!), etc. is laughable. > > Smalltalk (and others too...) provided all of this LONG before Java was > even a twinkling in the eye of Sun's marketing & sales departments. > > [rest snipped] > >> >> Kev >> > > It is not giving credit for the creation but for mass usage. It is important too. I am not sure you can compare the spread of Smalltalk with Java spread. my full 0.02 euroc :alex |.::the_mindstorm::.|