Devin Mullins wrote: > > BTW, I'm not *completely* anti-Java. I do, after all, like the > package/import thing it's got going, even if it does require decent IDE > support not to be painful. > Nor am I. I started learning it years ago, but since my job didn't require it, the culture surrounding it (read: bloat) grew faster than my ability to soak it up. When I first heard of it in '95, I hoped it was going to be something revolutionary. I served as a reviewer for the Sun docs. I found out quickly it was just another C-family language. Incrementally better than (say) C++, perhaps not as good as Objective C (matter of opinion of course) and probably not as good as C#. But, bottom line, evolution in that branch of the family is too slow for my taste. I knew that even before I found Ruby. I was probably looking for Smalltalk and never knew it. And conventional wisdom says that Lisp is the prince of all languages (though I never learned it). But I am happy with Ruby until something better comes along. Such as Ruby 2.0. Hal