Brett wrote: > Not to mention Grace Hopper, who not only was > a prominent figure in computer history, she > was also a rear admiral in the Navy! Um, that was the *U. S.* Navy and perhaps our very international Ruby community might find that association somewhat less than attractive? My recommendation of Lady Ada fails equally by the same standard: she was a noble of the British empire. This whole discussion has pushed me toward the Ruby-crowned Kinglet. While I do like the idea of an anime figure, if treated properly as homage to Ruby's Japanese origin, it may indeed be too problematic. If a few quick posts within this group has already exposed so many objections to Ruby-chan, just wait until Ruby's detractors get going! That's unfortunate, because I very much like the symbolification and metaphorization of Ruby as a <strong>human-oriented language</strong>. OTOH, I can't think off-hand of *any* serious objections to the precious little Ruby-bird at http://www.rubyconf.com/whyrck.html. Also, the simplified monochrome version on http://www.rubyconf.com/mascot.html shows that a workable practical logo is possible. As for sheer cuteness, I'm in my mid 50's but I *do* have one of those cuddly little stuffed Tux figures (from http://www.penguinpower.com) hanging from my bookcase here at work! A lot of very serious people *like* Tux as the Linux mascot. Don't be afraid of using a cute mascot -- it works. In conclusion, you can count this as a perhaps too long-winded vote for the Ruby-crowned Kinglet. John Tobler grepninja / diganet.com PS: Some suitably creative minds could, perhaps, satisfy themselves with the possibility that the bird may actually be the shape-changed avatar of a kindly sorceress.