Hi -- On Thu, 5 May 2005 Ara.T.Howard / noaa.gov wrote: > jib:~/eg/ruby > cat a.rb > class Class > def inside_metaclass? > self.ancestors.first != self > end > end > > class << self > p inside_metaclass? # true > end Isn't that the case we talked about before where you clarified that you didn't think it should be 'true' for singleton classes in general? If not, them I'm retroactively confused again about the whole thread and the use of terminology. David -- David A. Black dblack / wobblini.net