Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > Robert McGovern wrote: >> I thought you wanted to close the thread? > > I cannot. > > I've still on task active: > > finding a concise name. > I find greek letters and fruit useful to move on beyond recursive analysis paralysis. banana On the other hand, should you eventually discover the "true" name of an object, you can wield great power over that object. banana.sit banana.roll_over banana.play_dead -- J. Lambert