Hello Trans, T> Perhaps I have a skewed perspective (it happens :-), but it seems as if T> the ruby-talk mailing list has become rather "calm" in recent months. T> While Ruby-core appears to have a bit of activity, much of it seems a T> response to the stillness on talk. And alternate Ruby lists seem to T> have fallen largely silent, with one expection: Rails. So I wonder, is T> Ruby at risk of becoming little more than a subset techonolgy of Rails? No, we need a good "plone" clone, then we can use this list for talking about this subset of Rails technology. -- Best regards, emailto: scholz at scriptolutions dot com Lothar Scholz http://www.ruby-ide.com CTO Scriptolutions Ruby, PHP, Python IDE 's