>===== Original Message From Avi Bryant <avi / beta4.com> ===== >On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Benjamin J. Tilly wrote: > >> I would need to look at IOWA closely to say more, but my >> preference is definitely that _neither_ the templating >> solution nor the developer has any business trying to >> understand HTML. The developer shouldn't because the >> developer doesn't want to become a bottleneck for the >> designer. The templating solution shouldn't because it >> is very likely to need to deal with many kinds of text, >> not just HTML. > >It depends very much on what your goals are. Yes, there is a need for >general templating solutions that can deal with any kind of text. There >is also a need for general XLib calls that can deal with any kind of >graphics. But if you are building a particular kind of desktop app, it >is much nicer to write to a widget toolkit, or better yet, an >application framework. The direction I was trying to move with IOWA was a >system for HTML - not XML, not WML, at least not yet - that allowed the >same high level of abstraction (or higher) that you get when working with >a good desktop framework. I'm not sure how you could provide that with >a more general templating system. > With that said, my needs are for data delivery, and that data needs to be delivered to many places in many different formats. I am not in the business of developing wonderful web pages. I am in the business of making sure the data arrives, and what you are describing is useless for me. So for the goals I will have for the forseeable future, IOWA is the wrong wheel. Cheers, Ben