On Apr 4, 2005 4:48 AM, Sascha Ebach <se / digitale-wertschoepfung.de> wrote: > If you ask me I would not do it under 40-50$ per month per account. > Otherwise I wouldn't know how to turn a enough profit to pay everyone > involved. Everything else would be a donation based community project > which is not to be confused with "hosting". I'd like to note that while I a $50/month hosting fee is quite affordable for a business, it's far too much for an individual in many countries to shell out for non-commercial purposes like running the blog you've just created as your first foray into Rails. Sure, that $50 is just as easily spent in a bar on a friday night or on a single computer book, but that doesn't mean that an extra fifty magically appears into your wallet after you spend one. At least Amazon.com hasn't sent me a single note back after ordering from them ;) I myself live in Finland and the cost of living is more or less equal to other western european/scandinavian countries. I'm currently paying something around $15 for hosting at pchighway.com (which has Ruby but not Rails and no FastCGI, I think) and that's more or less exactly what I'm willing to pay for such a service. It doesn't really matter what you're offering on top of that $15. The $12 hosting plans for Rails is something I've thought about (http://radio.javaranch.com/lasse/2005/03/30/1112214779551.html). Still, paying TextDrive $12 for 300 megs of disk and 3 gigs of bandwidth is still pretty far from what you get from "regular" hosting companies running PHP/Java. If Rails is too heavy on the machines to achieve the same number of users per box, there's a performance issue to tackle and higher pricing is not a long-term solution. -Lasse-