I'll see what version fink has. I try not to build too much myself on this system, though I'm not sure I have a good reason for it. My debian system is a mess, maybe that's why. I installed the base pakages, but built just about everything else from source because debian's stable deb's are two years old (okay, maybe not two years, but I like using and playing with new technologies). Maybe I can find precompiled if fink doesn't have it... Either way I'll try and check it out. X11 stuff is a bit slow compared to Aqua, doesn't have built in spell checking (not that I use it on code, but I most likely should...), and all around just isn't as pretty. Thanks, On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:24:51 +0900, Richard Dale <Richard_Dale / tipitina.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Have you tried KDevelop 3.2 which has just been released as part of KDE 3.4? > It has a ruby source code debugger, class browser, integrated UI builder > and so on. > > It probably isn't very easy to get working on Mac OS X though, I use it on > an iMac running Yellow Dog 4.0 Linux. > > -- Richard > > -- ~Travis