<ben_tilly / operamail.com> wrote: "There is persistent speculation in the Perl world that ActiveState has done a lot to pollute the development process." Speculation from whom? Larry Wall? Randall Schwartz? ActiveState has the support of the main people behind Perl. ".. it is unquestionable that their desire is to make themselves the definitive source of all things Perl/Python, ..." I'm not looking for a flame war, but I think that *is* a questionable statement. "ActiveState in particular is a company that I distrust." Can you explain why? If my trust in ActiveState is misplaced, would like to know. Basically, I see them as a company that has done a tremendous job getting quality binary distributions of Perl and Python on Windows. "The entire point of open source (and many of the benefits) are lost when people are not encouraged to have and use the source." When I installed Ruby on my Linux boxes, I compiled from source. It is not so easy, though, to do that on Windows, so I am grateful for the Ruby binary distributions. from David Thomas and Andrew Hunt. Likewise, I am grateful for the ActiveState Perl binaries. However, ActiveState *does* offer source, if I were to prefer that, and I don't see that ActiveState encourages one installation method over the other. I would like to see Komodo support Ruby. I would like to see Ruby.NET. I do not see that that having more companies support Ruby can be a bad thing. James -- Posted from phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.5] via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG