> Ruby: 2 years, responsible for at least one project of >10K > lines. (Strong Lisp/SmallTalk background may be an > acceptable substitute.) While I think its great to see the job market get into drive, it would also be nice if we could avoid being as narrowly defined as the drone lines. I, for one, wouldn't fit the description above. Number of years is a utter lackluster indicator for job performance. Rewarding the use of 10K lines in Ruby is also fairly questionable. Johanna Rothman has this great quote for getting out of such narrow defines: "If you still think you need some number of years of some language or environment, stop using shorthand and describe what deep knowledge you're looking for. Maybe you can find it some other way. Maybe you don't need some number of years, but you need some kind of application context" She's putting it a lot milder than I did on http://www.loudthinking.com/arc/000409.html -- David Heinemeier Hansson, http://www.basecamphq.com/ -- Web-based Project Management http://www.rubyonrails.org/ -- Web-application framework for Ruby http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain