>> irc is great, but i don't know if it is the right spot to solicit to
>> others, "hey do you want to band together and work on a project
>> together?!" I dont' want to disrespect the #ruby-lang channel or scare
>> people far far away.
> 
> This mailing list and the IRC channel seem like the obvious places to
> do that already; that's why it would sort-of worry me if we set Yet
> Another Web Site where you go to solicit other people to join you on a
> Ruby-related project. That is to say, I don't want us to get so
> "diluted" that it actually becomes *harder* to find Ruby people
> because you're not sure web site, or mailing list, or IRC channel to
> flock to.

I play in a game called VGA-planets. It's from the days a VGA screen was
highres. It is still played, amazingly enough!!
But the user community is totally, utterly fragmented. A shame.

However, an IRC channel with a million users won't work. So there will
have to be some spread. While Ruby is as it is now, there is a central
place and things will remain cohesive. Linux is Many, but Linux is also
One. 

However, it is very hard to become One when you start with many. It is
easier to remain One when you grow to become Many.

VGA-Planets' central place is dormant. No wonder the community fell apart.

Perhaps another way of saying it: if this Virtual Ruby Group is 'extra',
that is good. If it is 'instead of', it is bad. (hey, you asked on the
ML/NG, so you probably think 'extra'; I can feel why ppl can be offput,
though).

>> I was thinking that a Virtual Ruby Group could be as simple as a couple
>> people who didn't have other rubyists in their area to band together on
>> their own ML, and to setup online meetings once a month to start a
>> project together. This seems like a good way for ruby programmers, both
>> new and advanced to be apart of something. This could get as geeky as
>> people with WebCams, Microphones, etc... or just be a 2 people emailing
>> each other back and forth.

....but with your own ML, only use it for meetings, not for general Ruby
questions. We have a ML. Do not fork the ML.

(plenty of web-software that encourages you to make your own this, your
own that, your own everything. That does not mean it is always a good idea.)

>> I may be wishful thinking here, and this wasn't entirely thought out to
>> be honest. I was just thinking when I was at the Ruby Meetup Group(s)
>> web site, "WOW there are alot of 1-2 people groups, if they joined
>> together there'd be a whole slew of rubyists, just think what they could
>> accomplish!".

Absolutely!

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