Thomas E Enebo wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Ilias Lazaridis defenestrated me:
> 
>>I simply need to produce software.
>>
>>You have described many systems.
>>
>>Java has hundreds, possibly thousands of it.
>>
>>But you cannot produce software with those technologies, when you have 

clarification: i wrote "cannot"

>>the requirement "OOAD", "scalable", "embeddable", and some others that 
>>i've described (which essentially are nothing special).
>>
>>-
>>
>>Isn't there any _bundle_ of those Ruby technologies that you listed, 
>>which are verified, which allow a simple software production, without 
>>the need of research & plumbing?
>>
>>Just Download & start?
> 
>   What Java bundles exist where you just download and start?  Especially
> that does a fraction of what you are talking about.  Many frameworks and
> tools exist in Java, but they all require research and I cannot think
> of a single-stop solution.   Enterprise highly scalable stuff exists for
> java, but that stuff is never really simple software production.  It also
> always seems to need plenty of plumbing.

One reason for leaving JAVA.

> Your requirements seem more like an outline for a corporate white
> paper than a real-world use case for software development.  At least
> with the amount of detail you have.  

This is an evaluation template with standard requirements (they are 
really nothing special, if you read them).

> Perhaps you could revise your 
> research a little to collate and organize a list of ruby software that 
> could be combined into a "dream" system (people have been trying to help you
> fill out such a list)?  

I've not the domain knowledge to do so.

The ruby community has the domain-knowledge to fill it in.

As stated at the begin of this thread:

this is a simple cooperation.

> Maybe provide more concrete considerations why some 
> of the technologies fall short?

sounds good.

> -Tom

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