working on alternatives for the ruby runtime has to be about the most difficult tasks one could take on, and on top of that, the community interest doesn't really help. maybe its just me but i expected *many* more emails in reply to the yarv and ruby2c releases!!!!! come on guys and gals, surely these projects are worth way more than that? what with being a possible future to ruby, it seems natural that people would express much more interest! even if you don't want to or don't think you could help out directly then at least get involved!, give feedback! i'm sure the developers would love it! Alex