> One indicator of the growth in Ruby's user base is the rise in the > number of posters who seem assured of their uncanny insight into Ruby's > real problems, while demonstrating a stunning ignorance of Ruby's > history and community. That would be me :) Perhaps it is a reflection of problems new users have, rather than Ruby's problems. I've not been around long enough to know Ruby or the Ruby community very well. There seems to be lots of politics going around which I don't understand. A bit like PHP5's weak support for Apache2, when it was the combination of PHP4+Apache1 that made both products as popular as they are. Douglas