On Jan 29, 2005, at 16:47, James Britt wrote: >>> When I got to part that asserted, "in such dedicated languages like >>> Java, everything in the language are 'Classes'," little trolls >>> started dancing in my head. >> Trolling trolls or not, is it not the case that everything in Java >> has to be part of a class one way or another? > > That's different from saying that "everything in the language are > [sic] 'Classes'" Bah. Same difference. > And then following that assertion with a straw man example of class > bloat. Well, straw man perhaps, but rather a telling one. After all, if the always so helpful javac compiler could be tuned down a bit, a bare bone Java class would need to look something like this: import java.lang.Object; import java.lang.String; import java.lang.StringBuffer; import java.lang.System; public class HelloWorld extends Object { public static void main(final String[] someArguments) { Buffer aBuffer = new Buffer(); aBuffer.append( "Hello " ); aBuffer.append( someArgument[ 0 ] ); System.out.println( aBuffer.toString() ); } } But thanks to the rich sugar based Java diet, you could get away with just this: public class HelloWorld { public static void main(final String[] someArguments) { System.out.println( "Hello " + someArgument[ 0 ] ); } } I heard that excessive intake of sugar is quite bad for your health though. Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/