On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:40:52 +0900, Keith P. Boruff <kboruff / optonline.net> wrote: > Curt Hibbs wrote: >> Keith P. Boruff wrote: >>> If code is duplicated hundreds of times in a project, it's >>> hardly the fault of the programming language. >> In the case of C++, it *is* the fault of the language. A class >> name (and its superclass name) is *required* by the language to >> be duplicated. In the case of the class name, its duplicated once >> for every method defined in the class! > Well, in the case of C++, I'll agree. I have to deal with this > crap language (sometimes I like it)for a living and understand its > frustrations. Just the dependency issues along.... sigh. I think I > see where you're coming from. > > But.... if you think Ruby is impervious to needing any refactoring > because it's less "verbose" than other languages, I would not > agree. Which isn't what was said. So far, I have refactored thousands of lines of Ruby code with simple cut-and-paste operations, not with expensive, extensive tools. -austin -- Austin Ziegler * halostatue / gmail.com * Alternate: austin / halostatue.ca