On 28/01/2005, at 5:39 PM, Tobias Luetke wrote: > If you want to convince java folks of the merits of ruby introduce > them to rails. Depends. Rails would really impress a Struts audience, but less so a Webwork audience. Charles Miller -- Contributing to the heat death of the Universe since 1975 cmiller / pastiche.org http://fishbowl.pastiche.org