Hi, I've been doing a lot of work with Java J2ME and one thing that bars real innovation is waiting for new API's that open up the phones functionality. And if these API are finally released it takes years before they are sufficiently spread to build applications with them. NOKIA realized this and started to port PYTHON to Symbian (a popular OS for mobile terminals). This allows programmers to easily access the phones native functionality. Unfortunately this is still a project in its pre-alpha state. But maybe that's fortunate for the Ruby community. Wouldn't it be great if Ruby was ported to mobile (aka limited) terminals as well? That would make it more fun to develop for mobile phones and, more important, it opens up a very big and lucrative market for Ruby developers! Ruby could really shine in this area. It could really boost Ruby's popularity. Just my 2 cents. CyBerco