On Jan 20, 2005, at 8:52 PM, Jordi Bunster wrote: > > On Jan 20, 2005, at 8:39 PM, Francis Hwang wrote: > >> I personally never know how much to worry about people using textual >> browsers anyway--and the site that I program for my day job doesn't >> degrade gracefully either--so perhaps the point is fairly academic. > > You're right, it is fairly academic, maybe except for the fact that if > it works OK in a text browser, you're halfway through on the job of > making it usable to the blind or near blind folks. > > I realize that they are not part of everyone's target audience. What > you'd be surprised is how many people think that their target audience > doesn't cover the blind, when it fact by not caring about them they > lose a fair chunk of business. Yeah, it's a tough call, especially as we see more web apps that use this stuff really heavily -- another example is GMail, which I've heard criticized for not being accessible. Sometimes I think that real accessibility will happen only when we get past being HTML-centric in designing our sites. I think we're creeping in that direction, though it may take another decade to be more than just some research project. Another thing that affects the calculation is who exactly Ta-Da list is for. (I mean, other than a smart way to snare unsuspecting customers into paying for Basecamp.) But I'm the sort of guy who can't use Ta-Da, anyway, since I'm too hooked on my PDA. Even though most of the other coders I know are quite proud of their notecard systems. Man, I should've been a lawyer. Francis Hwang http://fhwang.net/