On Jan 19, 2005, at 5:01 PM, trans. wrote:
> | sure, maybe its difficult for you to see redesign just yet,
> | but you'll have to do so in any case. the use of such
> | misdesign will just get you further down the well...
>
> Is the "right" design pure by-value? You seem to be pushing in that
> direction.

yes
i've coded in c++ also in which pass by ref is possible
and abhor it
pass by ref is just plain evil
pass by ref in which the *caller* states that
its a ref, (as in c via a ref and a de-ref of ptrs),
is okay in my books, but implicit anything sucks

Alex