Hello! Have you ever needed to develop quickly some CRUD views over RDBMS tables (typically oracle)? Have you ever tried using <CENSORED> DbForms and getting crazier day after day? I wonder if in ruby there is anything better than that. I'm sure there should be! I guess there are 2 main areas: 1) webapp 2) desktop gui While I think that building CRUD in rails should be simple (but I have never tried and I wonder if there is any alternative), I imagine that there currently is no solution ready to use as a desktop gui. What do you think about it? TIA Giuliano -- If you want to send me an email address should be 'p', then a dot, followed by 'bossi' at 'quinary', another dot and 'com' at last