Alexander Kellett wrote: > > actually i find it ironic that u find irony in something > that is so obviously non ironic! :P. i would have say that > in this case hyping a language is the evil of which is spoken > and the email from neil the appropriate counter action. > > regards > Alex > > :) This thread is full of irony--if it can be called that--when we see the definition of the word 'hype'. For most, 'hype' means "excessive publicity", "exaggerated/extravagant claims" or "deliberately misleading". By contrast, we were speaking of making a ruby more popular by taking specific steps that don't involve hype: (i) having a more formal/documented release process (ii) a bug tracking system and (iii) having documentation on the primary website instead of relying on 3rd parties. And (ii) is already done--hosted on Rubyforge. Your phrase 'the evil of which is spoken' can be viewed by some as 'exaggerated/extravagant claims', which fits the definition of 'hype' so there's irony for ya. :) Let us leave the 'hyping' to others. I'm sure there are plenty of folks who can easily point to more irony (morony) or even stupidity in my response. But I hope the energy will be channelled into making (i) and (iii) happen instead.