(In response to news:cqjom0$mfg$1 / news2.news.larc.nasa.gov by Bil Kleb) > Being a technical typesetting hobbyist this whole discussion is > rather intriguing. Where can I read more about where all these > bits are heading? I guess we could give you a good prediction about future package availability if you tell us what you are looking for. I plan to port some packages myself, but I guess we're still far behind the Pe.l community in this area... The upside being that we can port instead of having to code ourselves. I got to be a typesetting hobbyist after finally getting around to understanding some of the LaTeX system.. Where does your interest come from ? Is it just the 'Oh-No-Word-Messed-Up-My-Text' horror ? kaspar hand manufactured code - www.tua.ch/ruby