On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 05:12:34 +0900, Stu <ceaser / rome.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 05:22:38 +0900, Austin Ziegler
> <halostatue / gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 04:57:24 +0900, gabriele renzi
>> <rff_rff / remove-yahoo.it> wrote:
>>> Curt Hibbs ha scritto:
>>>> If someone would be willing to package iconv as a RubyGem, them
>>>> it would become immediately available thru a simple "gem
>>>> install iconv", since RubyGems is now included in the one-click
>>>> installer.
>>> yes, but iconv is one of the things that is part of the standard
>>> ruby (it is a c bingind in /ext) so it would be nice to see it
>>> provided with the standard 1-click-installer (maybe with the
>>> proper iconv utility)
>> Right. If it's provided with standard Ruby (e.g., OpenSSL, iconv,
>> a few other things), then the 1-click installer should include
>> them.
>> 
>> I personally don't like the idea of forcing users to use RubyGems
>> for a lot of things that are currently in the installer.
> personally im kinda sick of all the duplication.

For extra/external libraries, I can agree with you. Thus, iconv.dll
should only be installed when it is selected (which it should be, by
default). However, iconv.so -- the Ruby interface to iconv -- must
be installed regardless. Maybe the installer can check to see if it
can load iconv.dll from the PATH before it selects the iconv.dll
installation by default.

MySQL and PostgresQL (the databases, not the bindings) would not be
included because they are clearly separate libraries that a user
must want to use. Iconv and OpenSSL are *assumed* by Ruby to be part
of a working operating system.

At a minimum, the Ruby bindings must be included. If there are
redistributables (e.g., openssl.dll, iconv.dll) that would be
beneficial, they should be included but made optional for
installation.

The point is to have a complete installer for people who would run
our applications, not just programmers. If not, then we tell people
on Windows to download and install fifteen things *before they can
even RUN Ruby*.

-austin
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