I wonder what we could do to get Apple to throw in some extra bells and whistles by default, say working SDL, Cocoa, Tk (the shiny one from the Aqua Port?), and OpenGL bindings? I'm building out of darwinports now, and I really should just be using straight source. Anyhow, the Ruby "market" would take off like crazy if they put in some good bindings by default and made them work -- it's kind of clunky to get a GUI off the ground as it is (save for darwinports, which is not good for distribution). Look at what RedHat has done for Python acceptance... If you know the right people at Apple to talk to about this, maybe we can get Ruby a leg up. --MPD On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 06:38:49 +0900, Phil Tomson <ptkwt / aracnet.com> wrote: > In article <e5ed7b6904110112267a693474 / mail.gmail.com>, > Carl Youngblood <carl.youngblood / gmail.com> wrote: > >The question is, who do we talk to to change it? > > Has anyone out there ruby-talk-land signed up for the Tiger developer > package? I would think that Apple would have some method for feedback > from developers who are using Tiger now. > > > Phil > >