Mikael Brockman wrote: >David Ross <dross / code-exec.net> writes: > > > >>Mikael Brockman wrote: >> >> >> >>>David Ross <dross / code-exec.net> writes: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Brian Schröäer wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:13:51 +0900 >>>>>David Ross <dross / code-exec.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Then you wouldn't mind giving out the server logs for us to confirm >>>>>>you are telling the truth. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>PLONK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>/me blinks >>>> >>>>what does "PLONK" mean? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>><> >>>Well, metaphorically, it means dumping your hostile allegations against >>>the provider of a free service where it rightfully belongs: the trash. >>>Technically, it means you're killfiled. >>> >>> >>> >>> >><>Oh, Thanks Mikael, I'm not great with sound recognition. I asked >>others on irc and they had no idea what it meant. I've to disagree >>about them being in the trash though. Chad lied, thats worse than >>arguing. He lied about having a RBL, and he lied about the 0%. I don't >>care if I look like a bad guy on this one, becasue I just plainly >>don't care, but I am 100% right. I spent an hour checking spammer IPs >>on RubyGarden, it would certainly get over 80%, and the people who >>spammed from hosts not listed were mostly proxies(common and elite >>ports) or gone by the time I checked them from being Dynamic IP >>adrresses. Sorry you feel that way about the truth, not many people >>can have deep knowledge in security or have the experience. Laters, >> >> > >You say you can't escape your habit of rudeness. Here's a simple >procedure. You can write it on a post-in note and stick it to your >monitor. > >Before sending a message, read it over and answer these questions: > > - Is the ostensible point of my message to help or to slander? > > - Is it possible that I am assuming the worst? > > - Is there a way to change my message so that the consequences will > smell less of sulphur and more of actual improvement? > >If I were to apply this procedure to your mail, I'd come up with >something like this: > >| Oh, thanks Mikael, I'm not great with sound recognition. I asked >| others on IRC and they had no idea what it meant. I've to disagree >| about them being in the trash though. >| >| Chad was using an RBL, but I spent an hour checking spammer IPs on >| RubyGarden, and it looks like something wasn't set up properly, >| because most of the spam I saw would have been caught by a good RBL. >| If you want to continue down the RBL road -- and I think that'd be a >| good idea, because [reasons here] -- I'd be happy to help. >| >| Laters, > >That's better, because it still conveys all pertinent information, but >avoids looking like an attempt at slander, tries not to assume bad >things, and isn't likely to be followed up with a long thread of flames. > >Please try it. You seem to know stuff about spam prevention. That >stuff would be a lot more helpful if provided in a friendly package. > > > > > You don't know how hard I've tried, even lilo(head of Freenode IRC) has talked to me(just about every staff on Freenode) except 3 which I've never heard of. I'm socially inept. He just accepts it though. Unfixable unfixable, as well as my dingy short replies. David Ross -- Hazzle free packages for Ruby? RPA is available from http://www.rubyarchive.org/