matz / netlab.co.jp (Yukihiro Matsumoto) writes: > You are right. I'd like to hear your opinion about this. > > -13.remainder(4) => (-13).remainder(4) or -(13.remainder(4)) > -foo.remainder(4) => (-foo).remainder(4) or -(foo.remainder(4)) Well, I guess it comes down to what you mean by an integer literal. Right now, we have a somewhat confusing situation: a = -2 assigns '-2' directly to a a = -2.+(3) generates 5:Fixnum, then applies -@, resulting in -5. I think that breaks most people's expectations. When they see -99, they think of the number '-99', not 99 negated. When they see -2.abs, I think they'd expect to see 2, not -2. So, I'd personally feel that it's more natural to do a lookahead on MINUS for a digit, and if found, generate the negative number directly. That way -2.+(3) would parse as (-2).+(3). When it comes to -a.abs(), I think the argument is subtly different. I suspect most people would look at that in any programming language and stop to think about precedence. They might bracket it to be safe. I don't think they have too many ingrained expectations, the way we have with negative numbers. So, I could argue -a.abs() either way, and leave it up to the language designer to tell me the precedence rules. I think the goal is to have a language with the fewest number of surprises--one that doesn't have built-in "gotchas". -2.abs is a surprise to most people. Regards Dave -- Thomas Consulting. Innovative and successful developments with Unix, Java, C, and C++. Now in bookstores: The Pragmatic Programmer. www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/ppbook/