On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 16:25:01 +0900, Joshua Kugler <jkugler / bigfoot.com> wrote:

> I may start a flame war with this, but from what I understand, VB is
> actually a distant descendant of Ruby.  So, that might tell you something.

Wrong, but no need for a flame war. ;)

There was indeed a "Ruby" which was one of Alan Cooper's early
prototypes for what became Visual Basic; but the Ruby programming
language discussed on the ruby-talk mailing list is from a completely
different bloodline.