Hi all!

Results of our little opinion poll so far:

9 people are for, 
5 are against, 
2 are for only if the gateway feature is implemented (i.e., filtering
the traffic from the forum to ruby-talk and back)

As I understand, the main reason why people vote against it is that
community is friendly enough to nubies as is and not big enough to
justify splitting. And I agree with both of these statements.

However, splitting the community is NOT the purpose. The purpose is to
lower the entry barrier for uncommitted beginners (subscribing to a
mail-list with 100 mails/day traffic is commitment). As people become
more committed to Ruby, we will try to convince them to join ruby-talk.

[To David Black: "uncommitted beginners" may well include
"script-kiddies". They grow up, too.]

Since enough people seem to support the idea, we are going ahead with
it. By the way, gentlemen, I hope all of you who said "go for it" will
help answer stupid questions on the forum :)

I think, it is important to address the concerns of those who voted 
against the forum. At present, I have only a couple of ideas, maybe
somebody will have more:

1. Somewhere on a visible place there will be a statement along the
lines of "Ruby-talk mailing list is the best place to discuss Ruby
programming. Subscribe to ruby-talk today".

2. When someone creates a new thread on ruby-forum, we will
automatically mail notification to ruby-lang. 

I am not very comfortable with the thought of building a two-way
communication with ruby-talk. To be more precise, I am not confident in
our ability to implement it well. Bugs in such a thing would be HUGELY
embarassing :)

So far, I haven't found a decent forum implementation in Ruby (a couple
of simple BBSes are available on RubyForge, but nothing really
full-featured). Therefore, we will probably host it on phpGroup for now
(like this Ruby forum in Deutsch: http://www.rubyforen.de/index.php).

I have asked for a RubyForge project to do Ruby implementation of the
forum software. We are thinking to do it on Rails. If anyone wants to
take part in the development, please mail me off list.

To everybody who already participated in this thread: thanks!

Best regards,
Alexey Verkhovsky