James Edward Gray II wrote:
> The majority here has expressed a strong desire to see what goes on in 
> any Nuby forum, so this doesn't seem like the way to go.

Well, I not so sure a majority of people on this list have voiced *any* 
opinion, let alone "expressed a strong desire to see what goes on in
any Nuby forum."

> 
> My suggestion was that ALL Nuby messages be moved to Ruby Talk and gain 
> a [NUBY] if needed.  That seems to keep Ruby Talk in the loop, as many 
> have requested.  Plus, if anyone isn't interested in the Nuby list 
> traffic it's trivial to filter out.

Some comments:

* It's trivial to filter out [NUBY], but as I'll be doing the filtering 
after messages are downloaded, it's still traffic.  Might be small, 
probably won't matter to me, but might be an issue for some.

* Essentially, doing this means that everyone subscribed to ruby-talk 
becomes subscribed to nuby-talk. So, why not just post to ruby-talk with 
[NUBY] in the subject, and tell nubies to filter out anything that 
doesn't have that string?

* If one of the motivations for a separate forum is to protect nubies 
from the hordes on ruby-talk (i.e., to avoid overly technical responses 
or derisive comments or whatever is the imagined behavior), then having 
Nuby messages on ruby-talk breaks that barrier.

I suggest just starting a separate forum, whatever it may be, then see 
if in fact anyone has a problem keeping up or staying in touch.  And, if 
and when there seems to be a problem, then go look for a solution.

But, for now, I'm going to wave the buzz-word wand and declare YAGNI.

Go grab PHPNuke or something, start a web site, and tell newbies that 
they are invited to help build a pure-Ruby bulletin board package. Eat 
your own dog food.  Learn by doing, make mistakes together, track what 
issues newcomers have, document the learning process.  Archive old code 
so that people can better understand how the thinking process evolves.

And in any event, have fun.

James