Hi -- On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, James Edward Gray II wrote: > On Sep 7, 2004, at 12:39 PM, David A. Black wrote: > > > I think the reservations that have been raised have to do with the > > merits of a nuby-helping-nuby environment, as well as the fact that > > this list is historically a home > > for nubies as well as experienced users. > > Oh, if that's your complaint, I disagree. ;) With which one? :-) Actually the second point -- that ruby-talk has always been, and still is, a home for nubies -- is the more important for me; I have enough invested in this list, and have worked hard enough over the years to make people feel welcome here, that I am sad to see it talked about as frightening, intimidating, etc. > Being with a group of your peers is almost always a good thing, I > think. I agree; that's why I've always liked it here. I love the fact that, even as a nuby, my peers were understood to include experienced Ruby programmers. I know I'm making it sound more utopian than it is. But what I like about it -- and the Ruby world in general -- is that it's not built on the heavily stratified, "I'm-a-worm-and-you're-a-wizard" (or vice versa), aggressively pyramidal model that characterizes so many other communities. I've always had a personal distaste for that kind of thing, and therefore (among other reasons) been very happy in the Ruby world. Anyway -- if you think your project will help you, you should do it. I hope we'll see you and your colleagues around here too, and also on IRC. David -- David A. Black dblack / wobblini.net