On Monday 19 February 2001 02:10, Ben Tilly wrote: [ Excellent more detailed explanation snipped] > So they are doing the same thing, but you call to_str > when you want to make an implicit assertion that what you > have is something you should be doing string operations > with, and not just something that (like everything) can > be described in text. A very lucid explanation and one which makes matz's "something that wants to pretend to be a string" an apt and nicely succinct summary, indeed. Regards, Kent Starr elderburn / mindspring.com