If you're looking for a nice and simple mailing list manager with great search capabilities, look no further than Google: http://groups-beta.google.com/ I've used it. It works great and it has no ads. On the other hand, I kind of like being able to learn about different projects all from one mailing list. If I'm not interested in a thread I just delete it. And Gmail is great at organizing the chatter because a long thread still only occupies a single line in my inbox. If you did create a separate mailing list, I think you should make one for all the components in rails. That way people wouldn't have to sign up for three separate mailing lists just to keep track of things. Carl On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:15:40 +0900, David Heinemeier Hansson <david / loudthinking.com> wrote: > > I'm still confused on what associations have responsibility for > > holding the keys in their own tables and what ones depend on other > > tables. Is this right? > > > > Association Responsibility > > ----------- -------------- > > has_one foreign > > has_many foreign > > belongs_to local > > has_and_belongs_to_many foreign (in separate table) > > > > So basically, anything with belongs_to should have the key of the > > thing it belongs to in its table. All other associations don't. > > Right? Have I missed any associations? > > No, spot on. That's actually a great idea. Let me paste that right into > the Active Record documentation. > > > Also, in the examples I see some occurrences of "belong_to". Is this > > a typo? > > Yes. > > BTW, to the rest of ruby-talk: Is the Rails chatter getting too heavy? > Should we rather start a new external mailing list? I've been somewhat > against that in order to get the wikis in use, but it could seem that a > mailing list is just good for other stuff. Thoughts? > > > -- > David Heinemeier Hansson, > http://www.rubyonrails.org/ -- Web-application framework for Ruby > http://www.instiki.org/ -- A No-Step-Three Wiki in Ruby > http://www.basecamphq.com/ -- Web-based Project Management > http://www.loudthinking.com/ -- Broadcasting Brain > http://www.nextangle.com/ -- Development & Consulting Services > >