ptkwt / shell1.aracnet.com wrote: >Managment is understandably suspicious of using Ruby - they've never heard >of it before and they don't know if it is stable. They say there is no >in-house Ruby expertise (actually only myself and one other programmer >would be working on the system and I don't think it would be difficult to >transition from Perl to Ruby for either of us). Try to find out what the *real* objections are, which may or may not be the stated objections. They might be helped by seeing the pickaxe book in person, or by reading the interview(s?) with Larry Wall that mention Ruby, or by seeing that Ruby will be represented at an upcoming industry conference, or by the articles in recent magazines, etc. Stability should be addressable. I've used Ruby to write two GUI applications (email: 1kloc, strategy board game: 3kloc). The highly-respected Pragmatic Programmers are using it in their professional practice. In-house expertise shouldn't be a showstopper. Surely at some point they'll want to take on something that they've never used before. Ruby is similar enough to Perl that the transition should be pretty easy. Does management have a general opposition to trying new things? There may be some psychology going on behind the scenes. Maybe someone is addicted to Perl. Or maybe a manager knows Perl but is afraid to learn anything new and doesn't want to be left out. Ask gentle questions to discover the *real* objections. Kevin