>I don't see how any of this counters my point that Linux software is getting >better because better programmers are contributing more often to open source >projects. No one is trying to counter your point that better programmers are contributing. We are trying to get the point across that, that isn' the sole reason OSS is getting better. And a huge factor in this is because programmers are able to spend *commercial* time on OSS, which you seem to either disagree with or won't (or haven't) said that you agree with it. Zach --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.705 / Virus Database: 461 - Release Date: 6/12/2004