On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 16:18:32 +0900, you wrote: >Again, this is where it's useful to consider the OO approach and think >of variables as just the symbols you use to reference to objects. If >the symbol you're using is not assigned to any object (a.k.a. it >points to nil) then it it undefined. i just need the variable to 'not exist' however it's thought about (by me or others :) isn't a concern. i'm willing to bet that perl coders are having a harder time with ruby than coming from another language :) i'm so used to 'thinking in perl' that unlearning some of the perl magic is taking some effort...