On Sunday 13 June 2004 07:52, Jamis Buck wrote: > Nathaniel Talbott wrote: > > As I've watched the uses of test/unit grow and change over time, I've > > also considered adding more ability to run tests in specific orders... > > however, this is because I see test/unit being used in various places at > > an acceptance (or customer) testing level, where those needs are much > > more legitimate. It's a challenge to introduce something like that, > > though, and still encourage good unit testing practices. Perhaps it's > > time for test/accept? > > Forgive me if this has already been asked and answered, but what exactly > *are* good unit testing practices, and how should they be implemented? > I've been trying to use test/unit more and more, and to be honest I keep > running into situations where I would like tests to be run in a specific > order. If I have understood the comments in this thread, it sounds like > several of you think that this is a bad thing... I'm having trouble > seeing how else to do it, I guess. I don't think people think its a bad thing, people just don't like when people come along and criticize their beloved development framework, and I've done that. They're just being defensive. They know running tests in a controlled order is the right thing to do, they just don't like it when people point out a library they love doesn't do this or that. I find a lot of things I ask for in Ruby gets responses like that. Something doesn't do this or that, so people start arguing how perhaps it shouldn't be doing that in the first place. A lot of people love Ruby so much, they're trying to fantasize that it's is as perfect as can be, and they don't like people pointing out cracks. It's pretty normal, I think. Frustrating, but normal. Sean O'Dell