Michael Campbell wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 01:03:27 +0900, Sean O'Dell <sean / celsoft.com> wrote: > > >>Ditto. When hiring an artist, should one be wary of people who want to be an >>artist forever? When hiring a gardener, should one be wary of people who >>want to garden forever? I don't see the logic in refusing to hire a person >>because they love their work and want to keep doing it the rest of their >>life. > > This translates to me to not wanting to learn, and that I can do without. I think we're all talking past each other here. My opinion is, I want to be a programmer as long as I possibly can. That doesn't involve my skills or my job remaining static. It demands that they change continually. So it does NOT translate into stagnation or a lack of interest in learning -- the exact opposite, I would say. If you don't keep pace with technology and grow in your own field, you won't BE a programmer in fifteen years. Instead you'll be a manager of the breed I have had over and over -- ex-COBOL programmers who never heard of OOP and are now paper-pushers. Except in 2020 you'd be an ex-Java programmer. That is why I don't consider becoming a manager to be an "advancement" even though it may be more salary or prestige. Most of the managers I know became managers by being too tired or too stupid to keep up with the industry changes. Just my opinion... Hal