On Tuesday 08 June 2004 12:12, Michael Campbell wrote: > > Maybe it depends on what your are doing, but I'm afraid for some > > things it hasn't changed much. My belief (don't flame me) is that > > those with inexperience do OK when they are working on things that > > give visible feedback, like GUI's and such, but take number > > crunching or data processing where errors don't readily > > reveal themselves (unless you code defensively), then they tend to make > > a lot of mistakes and/or leave behind a bunch of land mines. > > I wouldn't necessarily disagree, but the absence or presence of a CS > (et. al.) doesn't necessarily skew that heavily in one way. I've been > in this industry a long time too, and I've seen this assertion made a > lot of times, almost exclusively by people w/o the degree they're > blaming poor workmanship on. There's truth behind the assertion. Degrees look GREAT in interviews. Given a young, sharply-dressed person with a degree, compared with a middle-aged programmer with loads of experience but no degree, people just get gooey about youth and pedigree. It's human nature. Sean O'Dell